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good afternoon everyone and welcome to

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our sts 132 flight readiness review news

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conference we're here today to talk

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about the results of the meeting and

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joining us today are nasa's associate

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administrator for space operations mr

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space shuttle program manager john

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shannon

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and space shuttle launch director mike

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leinbach good afternoon

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we'll begin with some opening comments

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and then we'll be happy to take your

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questions mr gerstenmaier thanks mike

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again we had a very thorough review

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today we went through all the

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things that have happened on the vehicle

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both the shuttle and also the station

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in general the station is in very good

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all the

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basic life support systems are

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functioning

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the urine processor the water processor

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the oxygen generation system the carbon

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dioxide removal system they're all up

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and operating they're not maybe

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operating a hundred percent uh but

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they're all functioning and doing the

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job that they need to go do and and i

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think we're really kind of learning how

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to operate in space and how to fix

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if you remember during the last flight

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the nitrogen valve on the ammonia system

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failed to open or the regulator failed

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to control the pressure to the ammonia

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system the teams were able to fix that

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during a cold period and they got that

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system functioning and now it's up and

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operating so again i think

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there's something to be learned here the

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way we operate in space for long

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duration when you've cut the

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ability to go bring the vehicle back or

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bring the hardware back uh continuing to

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pursue things spending extra time to

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work on things is really an effective

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way to manage things so that was very

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good on the shuttle side

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the teams have done a phenomenal job

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down here again the vehicle is is ready

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to go fly is a true testament to the the

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work that the teams have done down here

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at the cape uh you know i watched the

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status reports each day and the

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propellant loading was full of

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challenges with quick disconnects and

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gse and and mike and the teams down here

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just did a phenomenal job of handling

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each one of those items and working

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the program gave them some extra

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challenges with some ceramic plugs that

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to fit in some of our tile and they did

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some extra installations of those they

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inspections on those and again the team

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down here has just done a phenomenal job

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and it's also a real testimony to the

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last flight you know we're not many days

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from the last landing and here we are

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getting ready to go launch again and

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that's only possible because the other

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vehicle works so smooth and and again

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the teams have done a phenomenal job

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with the ku band antenna they

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found the problem they've isolated it to

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a particular transistor and the outside

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of the deployed unit which is

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unbelievable work for them to know

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already at this point what the failure

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is and the implications so we we had a

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very good review i think we're ready to

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go fly i continue to kind of push on the

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team to make sure we haven't forgotten

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anything that we're not taking things

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easy we're not rushing into things and

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and i see no indications of those

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again i ask you to take a good hard look

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at the the videos for this flight the

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they are not trivial at all on station

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install are pretty amazing evas

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especially eva number one if you look at

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it's a it's a pretty uh eye opening eva

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if you take a look at those activities

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so again a very good review and we set

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the launch date for may 14th at 2 20 p.m

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didn't leave me much that was great

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it was a very a very smooth flight

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i am amazed at this team because

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discovery did just land 15 days ago

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we're the beneficiaries of of its very

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trouble-free mission

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had a very trouble-free processing flow

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he was a little we had some weather

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trying to roll out mike can tell you

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about that you know and then what curse

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talked about with the uh with the

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propellant loading but it's uh you know

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the team came to me about uh i don't

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know two weeks ago said we only have one

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contingency day and we've carried one

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contingency day throughout and they've

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they've overcome problems and and

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unbelievable team

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that bill mentioned one was the ku band

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communications antenna that we used to

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bring down video and high rate data

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the team was able to actually get in

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discovery take out the electronics box

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send it to our logistics depot where we

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where we troubleshoot electronics they

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already identified the failed component

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did for atlantis ku band antenna we

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don't see any issues there although we

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didn't see them on discovery either so

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transistor failing but it's good to know

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that it was not some other problem that

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this was just a random electronics kind

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of failure and and we feel pretty good

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about how we're going into

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that uh that go around the windows and

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going to show up but they're just real

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little bitty ceramic plugs that are

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fastener and it uh there you go they're

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think pretty late in reentry

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they're secured in we actually use a

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cord to increase the friction

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didn't like the results so what we asked

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you know mike's team to go do is is go

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replace all of them around the windows

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with a little bit thicker cord that gave

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have those issues anymore and we ran

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and the team was happy with that story

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and where we are and the testing that

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was done on it and i think they'll

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finish up that work probably today so it

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was uh that was a good discussion uh so

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very few issues uh very few things going

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on this is a very exciting mission um

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it's it's nice that uh that we have this

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for the team to uh to go and execute for

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uh atlantis uh last scheduled

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mission uh 12 days three va's tons of

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robotics uh we're putting on spares that

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make us feel good about the the long

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sustainability of iss

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replacing batteries that have been up

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build iss module this flight has a

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preparation for the team

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about all new that i can add is

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the tone of the meeting was extremely

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purposely avoiding it but nobody

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mentioned this was atlantis last planned

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flight it's just folks are so focused

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and in doing their jobs and they're

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performing with such pride all the way

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to the end you know that it's uh it's

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just normal business and the team's very

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mature and is looking at the data and

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and looking for things they can do it's

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you know you might ask well did you

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really have to go and replace all of the

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braided cord on all of these these plugs

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which have performed pretty well in the

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past and the answer was we think we'll

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make it better and

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we're gonna go do it and uh and that's

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that's the kind of attitude this team

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has and i just they're such an asset to

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uh to human space flight and and uh i

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just i could not be more proud of them

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so we're ready to go next friday it's 15

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days since we last landed nine days

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until we launched this is the kind of

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pace that this team thrives on

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well i'd like to recognize two people

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from the atlantis team for all the work

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that's been done out the launch pad to

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recover from two days late rolling out

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from the vab as it was mentioned angie

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brewer the flow director on the nasa

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side and jim taylor the integrated flow

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manager on united space alliance have

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both done an outstanding job of dealing

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with the different challenges that we

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presented them the additional work that

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and they've maintained that schedule we

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do have one more contingency day left

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it'll be this saturday so we'll be able

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to give the whole team a day off and get

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into launch countdown mid next week and

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looking for a t-zero on friday the 14th

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the remaining pad flow is very standard

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for us we completed our ordinance

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installation monday night

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we'll get into the f closeout and and

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payload operations today and and

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tomorrow and friday

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and then come back next week pressurize

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the high pressure tanks on the on the

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orbiter and then be ready for launch

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countdown so that right now we've

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a lot of challenges at the pad and those

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two folks have led their team through

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this extremely well i'm

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i'm grateful to be able to to recognize

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them and and uh they've done a superb

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job along with everybody else

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so we're ready to go we're not tracking

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anything right now at the launch pad

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that would represent a constraint and

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we're feeling good about atlantis

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launching a week and friday

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all right thank you all right we'll take

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questions here at kennedy space center

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and we'd ask for you to please identify

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yourself and your affiliation and to

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whom your question is addressed and

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marcia done associated press with short

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question and a longer question could you

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just say how many days you have to keep

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trying until you'd have to stand down

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for whatever reason

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over the next few weeks or yeah there

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are a couple things that get us there's

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a there's a delta on the range their

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launch date is the 20th

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and in order to reconfigure

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the range for them we we can't launch

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after the 18th we have the 18th as a

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launch date

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and so starting on the 14th we have four

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attempts in five days and then we'd have

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to stand down for the delta and then a

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lot of other constraints kind of kick in

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after the 18th and the 20th and that

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says we wouldn't be able to get back on

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until sometime in june

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but our history says that you know four

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attempts in five days is plenty for us

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and and barring something some major

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issue we should be in good shape

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at the beginning of june yeah i think

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it's the end yeah it's the end of june

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oh the end of june yeah june 29th

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29th

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um and um probably for

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bill um i know that you know there's

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there are only three scheduled flights

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left but jerry ross would like to see

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one last hurrah for atlantis as he put

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it monday and if you were to

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if that were to come about um

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would it would it be a crew of four as

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we've heard and how would you manage

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their rescue

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if that were to be needed and how how

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would you manage that flight if it

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somebody said go for it

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it would probably be a crew of four and

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that would be driven by the fact we

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would use potentially soyuz vehicles to

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return crew if they got stranded on

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orbit

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you know we've been looking at that we

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wouldn't we can you know we can fly a

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soyuz up with two crew members return

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one or fly it up with one crew member

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and then return to so we'd have to work

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all that out i don't know if we'd

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protect all that formally with the

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russians i don't know if we would do all

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the contract mods and those things but

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you know we would look at it we're also

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looking again just at our cscs

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requirement you know we're looking at

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how the tank performed this last time

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we're looking at what we're seeing on

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the orbiter we're evaluating what we

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really get from cscs protection you know

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this time we're very lucky in the fact

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that we have a very robust station we

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have 125 days on on orbit capability for

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all the crew members on this flight to

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stay from a cscs standpoint so we can

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support all the way till the september

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16th date so we can accommodate that

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very well we think that can get expanded

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even more as the station systems get

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more robust so so we think we've got a

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plan that provides some capability and

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we'd have to still review that with a

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lot of people if we were going to make

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who would be these four people have you

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bill harwood um the horowitz cbs for

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first for mike uh as john said this is a

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nice fast pace you guys like that but

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then you're going into a pretty long

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uh downtime or hiatus before the next

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flight so uh is that an issue for you

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for the for the teams keep everybody

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toasty and uh ready to go whenever 133

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goes well not really you know from the

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launch team perspective we'll we'll

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throw in more simulations more training

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runs for the team

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the processing guys uh they go through

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their standard training regimen and

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their periodic re-certifications are

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required so they'll be going through all

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those you know we've we've gone through

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down times in the past obviously and and

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uh has not been a problem for us so i

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would expect more launch count sims this

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i guess this was the same type of

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transistor in the ka that failed back in

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92 even though it's not in the same

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place

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um

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i mean statistically i would guess the

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odds of another one failing on this

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flight are probably zero but

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just just so i know there's nothing on

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this flight that requires k numbers if

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you had the same problem on this flight

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you could still execute this mission uh

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the way you've got it laid out

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yeah the uh transistor is uh a different

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but similar build of the one that failed

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in sts-91

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i think it was and

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if we had the same kind of so there is

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some potential that you could lose the

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ku

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the team did a marvelous job last flight

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of working around it getting all of the

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inspection data down

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the crew flew the rendezvous without the

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rendezvous radar did an outstanding job

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so

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you would see the exact same thing on

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this flight if that were to occur

401
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james

402
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hopefully pretty quick questions first i

403
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was just curious

404
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i didn't understand why

405
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mrm is

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why the shuttle is launching this mrm

407
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when the first one

408
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got up there separately

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again in our discussions with the

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russians from you know they were going

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to have to use a proton vehicle to go

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ahead and launch this vehicle so they

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saw it advantageous to use the shuttle

414
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to do that we were able to put a little

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bit over a metric ton about a metric ton

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and a half of us cargo inside the

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mrm so it's kind of a unique uh

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unique mixture for us you could think of

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almost like a

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an mplm in a sense filled with us cargo

421
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in fact it's so filled with cargo

422
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that the crew is going to have to start

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unloading it during this mission and

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then they won't get it totally on on

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unloaded before the soyuz is going to

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come up and dock to it here in june so

427
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there's a pretty quick timeline of

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getting all the stuff out of there but

429
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it's filled with u.s equipment so it was

430
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a nice mix between the russians and us

431
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they needed the module launched we were

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able to launch it we were able to fill

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it full of our cargo so in the spirit of

434
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international cooperation we worked on a

435
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very nice approach with them to take

436
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effective use of the shuttle that meets

437
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our needs and meets their needs as well

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so again we treat station and treat

439
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transportation as an international

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activity how can we optimize that for

441
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the partnership and this is a nice way

442
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to do that

443
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thanks for for mike lomback

444
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looking ahead a little bit when atlantis

445
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returns i was just wondering how far

446
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into its

447
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next into the lon flow

448
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will it go will it be

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prepared right up to to roll over and

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will

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its stack be fully stacked in the vab

452
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until that decision is made or will it

453
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only go so far before you know

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well we'll be processing or

455
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as if it's a real flight

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to begin with um somewhere along the

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line we expect to hear whether we're

458
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going to launch or not and at that point

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in time we'd either press on or stop

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that processing but in order to support

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that obviously we have to we have to

462
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press on when she gets home maybe a

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little bit

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expanded out not quite sure yet

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but we need to go through the normal

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de-servicing steps obviously after the

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orbiter comes home first

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get the payload equipment out that type

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of thing

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so

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basically to answer your question we

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have to prepare atlantis and the stack

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as if we're going to fly again because

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it is the lon mission

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so with that

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we need to be ready to go

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irene

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have a couple for bill and then i think

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one for john um when's the uh the uh

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rossvat supposed to be used for the

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first time

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um

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well it's going to be we'll actually

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ingress it during this mission and

485
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the crews will start unpacking during

486
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this one

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docking port it'll be used for the soyuz

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launch on i think the launch is june

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14th

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so it's the june soyuz the first soyuz

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will dock to it at that point it also

492
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has on the outside it has a radiator

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that's going to be potentially attached

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to the mlm module which is supposed to

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launch in 2012. it also contains spare

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parts for the robotic

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european robotic arm on the outside it

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also carries a workstation on the

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outside for the robotic arm that goes on

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the mlm module out in the future so so

501
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it carries some components for future

502
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russian modules well in the future it

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carries u.s cargo on the inside it'll be

504
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the other question for you is that

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there's going to be about four months if

506
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the shuttle launches as planned in in

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may before you get back up there again

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is there anything that you're

509
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have changed as far as um in this

510
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mission 132 with how you want to leave

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the station because you're not going to

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be

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back with the shuttle crew for four

514
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months

515
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yeah we kind of looked at that to see if

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there's anything unique we needed to do

517
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from either a resupply or consumable

518
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standpoint or anything on station and we

519
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we talked to the station team about that

520
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i think they're in good shape with their

521
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consumables good shape with all their

522
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systems to go ahead and fly through the

523
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summer period and there'll be some evas

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during the summer

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there's the the russian soyuz landing in

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june and then a launch in june and so

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it's a pretty busy time for station

528
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there's also some progress launches

529
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there's probably some kind of

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transportation activity going on with

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station almost every three weeks this

532
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year so it's a it's a pretty busy time

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for station but i think that it's

534
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another good chance also to get a lot of

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research done so we're going to have a

536
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lot of research pre-positioned on

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station so we'll be able to really start

538
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doing a lot of quality science onboard

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station with the crew over the summer so

540
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i think we're ready for this period on

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board station and we'll make really

542
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effective use of station during this

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time thanks um and for john how much

544
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money would be needed to fly the 135

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flight

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and um are there any uh can you just

547
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give us a little update on if there's

548
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any work on going on

549
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kind of unmanned shuttle or

550
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shuttle c or side mount shuttle kind of

551
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in the heavy lift mode of things that

552
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was

553
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brought up

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i guess with the the new budget rollout

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00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:53,120
thanks sure

556
00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:54,480
the question on

557
00:19:00,710 --> 00:18:58,799
what would it cost to go fly 135

558
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:00,720
is completely a function of when you go

559
00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:03,120
fly it you know and you would

560
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:05,360
if you flew it you know

561
00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:08,240
in in calendar year 11 you know we think

562
00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:10,320
we can get the team down to from our

563
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:11,520
current

564
00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:14,080
monthly spend rate of about 200 million

565
00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:16,880
dollars a month down into the 175

566
00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:18,320
million dollars a month maybe even a

567
00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:20,160
little bit less than that

568
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:21,919
that's just through our workforce

569
00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:23,360
reduction so

570
00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:25,039
it would depend on when the mission were

571
00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:26,960
uh were scheduled and how long we would

572
00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:29,120
keep the team employed and that's a

573
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:32,160
fairly easy thing to uh to determine

574
00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:34,480
um the other question was about other

575
00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:36,000
studies that have been going on out

576
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,310
all of the studies that were

577
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:42,400
internal to the shuttle program were

578
00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:44,720
done as a result of

579
00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:46,720
of questions from the transition team

580
00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:49,280
back when the administration changed or

581
00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:52,559
from the augustine commission and that

582
00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:55,200
work wrapped up fairly quickly and we've

583
00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:57,120
documented all of that work but there's

584
00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:00,080
no additional work ongoing right now

585
00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:02,480
unmanned shuttles been discussed for

586
00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:03,679
years and years and years we're not

587
00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:05,120
doing anything actively with that right

588
00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:07,760
now at all other than

589
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:09,600
when we did return to flight we

590
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:12,240
developed the capability to return fly

591
00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:13,600
vehicle back

592
00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:16,320
unmanned and put that cabling up on

593
00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:18,400
station to be able to do that

594
00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:20,159
so we still have that capability but

595
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:21,360
other than that we have not done

596
00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:23,200
anything

597
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,880
i'll take a question from todd and then

598
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,640
we'll take a question after that from

599
00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:28,480
our phone bridge todd okay todd

600
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:30,240
halverson of florida today and i

601
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:31,760
actually have a couple if i could the

602
00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:33,280
first one's for john

603
00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:35,600
and i'm wondering if you could uh

604
00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:38,240
further elaborate on the

605
00:20:45,710 --> 00:20:41,440
little slithers of opportunity of in

606
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:45,720
late november and december to fly the

607
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:48,400
sts-134 mission could you give me an

608
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:51,200
idea of what's out there as the uh

609
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:54,480
constraints and what little time period

610
00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:56,400
you have to work with yeah i screwed up

611
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:57,840
i didn't bring my manifest heart that

612
00:21:01,830 --> 00:20:59,919
has all the uh all the different uh

613
00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:01,840
constraints do you have a bill i got it

614
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:03,120
somewhere

615
00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:04,559
can we get back to you on that

616
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:10,870
in the meantime i'm going to ask bill

617
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:12,400
gerstenmaier a question while he's

618
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:14,400
trying to flip through that

619
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:17,760
um to answer your question and um

620
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:20,080
uh maybe i'll just ask mike weinbach

621
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:22,960
something in the meantime mike um

622
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:24,000
that's fine

623
00:21:28,870 --> 00:21:26,640
i'm just wondering you know how you

624
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:28,880
personally feel after all of these years

625
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:33,440
as you're about to do one of the first

626
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:35,919
lasts in terms of the shuttle program

627
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:38,480
the last flight of shuttle atlantis

628
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:40,159
which you've been involved with that

629
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:41,679
bird for a long time

630
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:43,600
well yeah all of us have been it's not

631
00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,400
it's not

632
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:46,320
me by any means it's uh the whole team

633
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:48,400
has been involved with atlanta since

634
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:50,480
since its first mission in 1985 i was

635
00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:52,320
just looking at the previous missions of

636
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,640
atlantis and reminiscing a little bit

637
00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:56,480
um yeah she's been around a long time

638
00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:58,720
and and a lot of us have known that ship

639
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:00,960
for 25 years

640
00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:03,200
so it'll be bittersweet to be sure she's

641
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:07,520
flown 31 times already 115 million miles

642
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:09,039
from a number of flight perspective

643
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:10,880
about a third of her design life so just

644
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:13,039
kind of just kind of third through the

645
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,520
way through now um but our mission is

646
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:17,039
coming to an end and so we're coming to

647
00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:18,240
grips with that the team is very

648
00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:21,039
professional and uh we know it's it's

649
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:23,120
the last one probably and and but that

650
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,799
doesn't affect the way we process or

651
00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:26,400
launch this thing we're going to do it

652
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:28,640
we're going to do it safely and surely

653
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:31,280
and we hope we do it next next friday

654
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,710
okay and we can answer your manifest

655
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:38,640
questions

656
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:40,400
did i stall long enough yes he did you

657
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:41,840
did good

658
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:44,559
we have a beta cut out from november 7th

659
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:47,120
through the 23rd of november so that

660
00:22:50,789 --> 00:22:48,880
means we have to be after the 23rd of

661
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:50,799
november then there's a soyuz activity

662
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,559
that runs from the 24th to the 26th

663
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:56,640
so then that leaves us open november

664
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,960
27th through december 8th this is the

665
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,320
real window

666
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:02,400
then the 9th to the 12th of december is

667
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:05,200
another soyuz docking activity which we

668
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:06,720
might be able to negotiate something

669
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:09,200
with but it sits there in in in that

670
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:10,240
period

671
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:12,400
then there's december 15th through the

672
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:14,720
end of the year we have the year

673
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:15,760
the

674
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:17,919
year-end rollover issue where we can't

675
00:23:21,909 --> 00:23:19,919
fly the shuttle over the end of the year

676
00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:21,919
and then after that we we pop into the

677
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:24,799
next year and then there's an atv and an

678
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,520
htv that's it next year and if we want

679
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,280
to move the htv

680
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:31,039
with the arm you remember that before we

681
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:33,600
can't dock a shuttle with the htv down

682
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:35,200
on the node we actually have to pick the

683
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:37,200
htv up and stick it temporarily up on

684
00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,720
top on the zenith port while we would

685
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:40,799
bring a shuttle up we could do that and

686
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,880
then that would open up

687
00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:45,120
sometime in february available for a

688
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:46,960
launch but if we don't do that with the

689
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,880
htv then that pushes us probably to the

690
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:51,039
end of february so the bottom line of

691
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,039
all that discussion is probably november

692
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:55,360
27th through december 8th is is that

693
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:56,960
little sliver of a window that you were

694
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:59,120
you were looking at 21 between 12th and

695
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:01,200
15th and probably another and depending

696
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,559
on what we do with soyuz that might

697
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:04,080
expand a little bit and then there's

698
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:06,159
maybe another little window in december

699
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:07,440
probably

700
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,480
three or four days in december

701
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:12,480
just just to follow that real quickly it

702
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:15,360
sounds like there's pretty much zero

703
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:18,240
opportunity in january

704
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:20,960
january is pretty full with the

705
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:23,200
htv and the atv activities that are

706
00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:25,039
going to occur atv occurs in december

707
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:27,919
then htv occurs in january okay thanks

708
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:29,279
and um

709
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,080
bill i was uh wondering if you could

710
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:34,799
give me an idea of what russian elements

711
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:37,760
are still going to be added to the

712
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,039
international space station

713
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:43,679
after this particular mission and maybe

714
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:46,960
after the u.s assembly is complete and i

715
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:49,360
was actually curious about your views

716
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:53,120
about the uh proposal to

717
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:55,840
invest in commercial crew transportation

718
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,080
to the international space station if

719
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:00,240
you think that

720
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:03,360
the commercial folks can do it better

721
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:06,960
cheaper faster than the government guys

722
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:09,760
okay in terms of russian modules the the

723
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:12,320
major module is their mlm module which

724
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:13,360
is a

725
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:16,000
it looks it's about the size of an fgb

726
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,679
in fact it was a i think the fgb

727
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,279
structural test article and i think

728
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:21,279
that's scheduled currently on the

729
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:24,159
manifest sometime in the 2012 time frame

730
00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:25,520
but that's kind of moved around a little

731
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:27,600
bit but the components that are on the

732
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:29,520
outside of the

733
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,240
of the mrm1 are some components that are

734
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,320
already being pre-positioned for that

735
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:36,159
other larger module that comes up that's

736
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,400
the european arm and then the radiator

737
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:40,559
that would be potentially added to that

738
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:42,400
laboratory module so you could think of

739
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:45,279
it as another major logistics or major

740
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:47,120
laboratory module for the russians they

741
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:50,640
treat both mrm1 and mrm2 as many

742
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,400
logistics modules and then this is a

743
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:54,480
bigger module in similar size to what's

744
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:56,480
in the fgb and those are the the things

745
00:26:02,630 --> 00:25:57,840
that i'm aware of from a russian

746
00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:04,470
i think you know there's lots of

747
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:06,159
challenges with our business it's not

748
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,559
easy to to do these activities it's not

749
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,480
easy to design spacecraft

750
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,760
you know we'll work with them to help

751
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:13,679
them as much as we can i think it would

752
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:16,400
be wrong to totally uh let them go work

753
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:17,840
all this in a vacuum without some

754
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:19,279
assistance from us you know we've

755
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,279
learned a lot over these years of what

756
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:23,200
what works and doesn't work you know

757
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:24,559
we'd like to be in a cooperative

758
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:26,159
arrangement with them where we can help

759
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:28,320
them and and share some of our lessons

760
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:29,840
learned the real lessons we've learned

761
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:32,320
and and help them actually deliver some

762
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,960
hardware to us so i think we've got some

763
00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:36,640
work to do with them and

764
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:37,919
and work with them i think they can

765
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,000
bring some creative things to us they

766
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:42,960
have some potential maybe in contracting

767
00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:44,240
they can do things a little bit faster

768
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:45,919
than we can do they can do some other

769
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,600
things with a little bit less overhead

770
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:49,360
than we do and in that sense they can be

771
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:50,880
a little more efficient but the

772
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,480
technical challenges are real it doesn't

773
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:54,240
matter who's flying the safety

774
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:55,600
challenges are real it doesn't matter

775
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:57,600
who's flying we've got to figure out a

776
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:59,600
way we work collectively with them to

777
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:01,440
buy down risk to get us the capability

778
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:03,039
to have a u.s crew transportation

779
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,720
capability for our crews in the future

780
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,559
and we'll figure out a way to go do that

781
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,400
in the next couple years

782
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:10,320
okay let's uh take a question from our

783
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,960
phone bridge please

784
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:14,640
thank you this is uh tarik malik from

785
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:17,200
space.com can you hear me

786
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:19,120
go ahead tark great thank you if i have

787
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:21,600
a just a few short questions i think for

788
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:23,679
for bill and then for mike um bill i'm

789
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:26,000
just curious if there's um an estimated

790
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:26,799
cost

791
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:30,480
for the uh the russian module uh in um

792
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:31,279
in

793
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:34,080
atlanta's payload bay and what types of

794
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:35,919
u.s hardware you've managed to pack in

795
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:37,200
there if it's just loading things in

796
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:39,039
bags and cramming them in or or if

797
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,720
there's a i guess more science to it

798
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,320
than that

799
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:43,919
yeah i don't know the cost of the

800
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:46,480
russian module we i don't know if that's

801
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,360
even available to us but

802
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:51,120
we'd have to probably talk to energia or

803
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:52,720
russia to get the costa module so i

804
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:54,320
don't have a number for that the things

805
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:55,600
that are in there are mostly stored in

806
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:57,279
bags and and stowed on the inside

807
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:58,880
they're things that we could soft stow

808
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:01,440
and and pack and store on the inside so

809
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:04,320
there there's nothing that's uh uniquely

810
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:05,840
that i'm aware of that's uniquely hard

811
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,520
mounted or mounted on the inside but

812
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:09,440
it's critical stuff that we need it's

813
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:11,600
got some logistics stuff for us it's got

814
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:12,799
some

815
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:16,320
research stuff for so it's got a mixture

816
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:18,799
of things that we needed to go fly

817
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:20,799
thank you and from mike you mentioned

818
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:23,279
that um that uh the team is real focused

819
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:25,039
on this point uh even though it is uh

820
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:26,559
the last for atlanta so i'm curious if

821
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:27,919
there are any um

822
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:29,760
maybe unofficial commemorations or or

823
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:31,520
celebrations the team is doing at each

824
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:34,320
of the milestones um to kind of just

825
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,200
mark

826
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:37,520
atlantis uh potential last flight uh

827
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:38,720
into space

828
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:40,080
yeah that's a good question in fact

829
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:41,760
andrew brewer the flow director for

830
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,559
atlantis has led a team looking at at

831
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:46,640
what we can do as a as a space center

832
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:49,600
and as a program to commemorate the last

833
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,279
several flights and so it's not limited

834
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:53,200
to just atlantis but the types of things

835
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:54,799
we've done you saw for roll out we had

836
00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:57,200
the big xenon lights on the vehicle we

837
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:58,480
we invited

838
00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:00,559
workers families to come out to the

839
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:02,000
rollout and be right up next to the

840
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:04,799
crawlerway to see the vehicle uh just so

841
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,159
happened that because we delayed a

842
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:08,000
couple of days that the crew was in town

843
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:10,240
and and ken ham and his crew came out

844
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:12,320
and and shook hands with the families

845
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:13,440
along the crawler way and that was

846
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:15,679
special for them we have different photo

847
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:18,159
opportunities for the workers as the

848
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:20,240
vehicles roll out of the opf and out of

849
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:21,919
the vab and then once we get to the

850
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,919
launch pad we've scheduled quite a few

851
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:26,240
photos out there so there's a variety of

852
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:27,600
things that that we're doing uh

853
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:29,440
consciously to to celebrate the last

854
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:32,320
several flows and and

855
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,760
angie's in charge of all that and she's

856
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:35,840
doing a great job

857
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:37,279
thank you

858
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,799
kennedy and bill harwood

859
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:42,799
one more manifest question for those of

860
00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:44,960
us i guess are obsessed with manifest

861
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,279
um when you look at 134 and that little

862
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:49,279
sliver out there of availability and of

863
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:50,000
course we don't know what's going to

864
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:51,520
happen to the ams yet and if they're

865
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,320
really going to get here in august

866
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:57,120
how does processing 133 play into all of

867
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:58,720
that from a cscs standpoint in other

868
00:30:03,110 --> 00:29:59,679
words if

869
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:03,120
if that if 134 slipped to late february

870
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:05,919
can you launch 133 in mid-september and

871
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:07,919
still provide the cscs capability needed

872
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:10,320
would would that plus payload issues

873
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,840
move that flight into october which is

874
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:13,520
what everybody seems to think and i

875
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:15,840
think from a cscs standpoint we'll have

876
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:17,600
about the same capability we do on

877
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,200
station now so that's roughly 125 to 150

878
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:23,600
days so that would allow it to to move

879
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:25,120
almost wherever it needs to move and it

880
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,640
wouldn't drag 133 with it so from a cscs

881
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:30,640
standpoint i don't think that would

882
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:32,960
would cause them to move well there's

883
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:35,840
payload issues with 133

884
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,559
not necessarily the the

885
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:40,080
mplm or whatever it's going to be but

886
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:41,360
the things you want to add to that

887
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:43,279
flight can you do that and launch in

888
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,240
september yeah i think again if if mike

889
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:48,480
was here he would tell you that there's

890
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:50,159
there's not much margin to that schedule

891
00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:52,799
they're working some large orus

892
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:54,559
replacement units some of the advanced

893
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:56,640
life support the life support systems

894
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:58,000
we've talked about they would like to

895
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,000
get those there they're on pretty much

896
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,840
very tight schedules so again we'll see

897
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:03,519
how the teams do and how they work the

898
00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:05,519
schedules right now it fits on september

899
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,559
16th

900
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,799
if they run into any problems it may

901
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:10,559
force a movement somewhere and we'll let

902
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:11,840
you know as soon as that happens but

903
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:13,519
right now everything kind of fits on the

904
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,120
overall schedule

905
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:17,600
marcia marcia done associated press for

906
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:18,799
bill um

907
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:19,600
if

908
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:22,159
can you just do you need to know anytime

909
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:23,919
this year whether you get an extra

910
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:26,240
flight for atlantis uh or any shuttle

911
00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:28,480
for that matter i mean can what happens

912
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:29,919
i know you get it ready for a lunch on

913
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:31,919
need but how long can you just keep

914
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,440
going

915
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:35,440
without really knowing whether you

916
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,600
really do have a flight for that one you

917
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:39,120
know i think we'd like to know in the

918
00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:40,720
june kind of time frame because if you

919
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:42,159
think about it we we would have to

920
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,760
assign a crew we got to do some crew

921
00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:46,080
training we we kind of know what cargo

922
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:48,159
we would fly you know it and so we've

923
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:50,159
got that kind of figured out but if

924
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:51,519
we're really going to do this we need to

925
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:54,000
know sometime in june

926
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:55,519
do you even have a launch on the crew

927
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:56,880
picked out for that one yet do you know

928
00:32:05,110 --> 00:31:58,559
which

929
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,120
and lastly for for this flight a

930
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:06,960
question about this flight um you say

931
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,080
you couldn't get off until the end of

932
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,559
june is that basically the soyuz launch

933
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:12,000
that's

934
00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:13,360
eaten up that month or is there

935
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:15,039
something else there's another beta cut

936
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:17,760
out in june when is that do you know

937
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:18,799
yeah

938
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:28,549
it's june

939
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:31,679
well we've got to be careful

940
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:34,559
but it's like june 12th to june 29th

941
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:36,559
somewhere in that time frame

942
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:38,320
so it's the latter latter part of june

943
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:39,840
and so the first part of june gets tied

944
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,600
up with the soyuz activities and in the

945
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:43,840
later part of june is

946
00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:45,760
his debate to cut out

947
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:48,080
james

948
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,440
have talked about the

949
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:52,960
great work done by the processing teams

950
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:54,640
i'm just wondering for mike or whoever

951
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:55,760
would like to comment if you could just

952
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,080
uh comment a little more generally about

953
00:33:01,750 --> 00:33:00,320
as we get into the the final what's

954
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,760
scheduled to be the final processing

955
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:03,600
flow for each vehicle

956
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:06,480
this unique four or five month process

957
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:08,559
that it takes to to get a space shuttle

958
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:11,120
ready for launch obviously much of that

959
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:13,360
work done by our workforce here a lot of

960
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:14,880
it behind the scenes

961
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:16,880
and that you know is

962
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:18,960
going to stop for you know possibly

963
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,720
years before another vehicle is ready um

964
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:22,080
we just talked a little bit about that

965
00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:23,039
unique

966
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,240
event a

967
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:25,919
processing flow

968
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:28,320
i'll start off and other guys can fill

969
00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:29,519
in

970
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,360
vehicle the same way we processed all

971
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,799
131 i believe it is

972
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:40,000
um

973
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,000
you know the guys as i've said before

974
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:44,159
the the guys when they're working on the

975
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,320
vehicle are absolutely committed to

976
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:47,760
their tasks

977
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:50,080
and and they do them properly

978
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:50,960
um

979
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:53,120
if you start getting the question about

980
00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:55,039
are they distracted when they're working

981
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:57,039
on the vehicle no when they're in the

982
00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:58,640
lunchroom they're talking about the

983
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:01,120
future that's what that's when they

984
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:03,120
start to vent a little bit about the end

985
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:04,960
of the program

986
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,320
but when we're working on the vehicle

987
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:08,800
they're absolutely focused and dedicated

988
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:11,200
that to that machine nothing special no

989
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:12,159
special

990
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,639
processing uh requirements for the last

991
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:16,320
missions um

992
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:19,200
probably a lot of a lot of hugs you know

993
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:20,399
at the end of the day

994
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:22,240
but uh when we're working on the

995
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:28,230
i really and i wouldn't i would just add

996
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:29,679
a little bit

997
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,119
the other thing that's going on too is

998
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:33,200
like in in new orleans the external tank

999
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:35,040
folks right you know we have a tank in

1000
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:37,760
route here right the through the gulf

1001
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,919
sunday it's going to come here on sunday

1002
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:41,760
and they've done a phenomenal job of

1003
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:43,040
getting the tanks ready and in fact

1004
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:44,399
they're actually beating some of the

1005
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:46,399
schedules the delivery schedules

1006
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,440
and and so i you talk about

1007
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:51,599
here but it's but it's program wide i

1008
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,919
mean everybody is really focused and

1009
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:55,599
they're very

1010
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:56,480
um

1011
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,160
very excited about getting to do what

1012
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,960
they normally get to do and and they

1013
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,880
know about the end but they're really

1014
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:05,119
enjoying as much as they can this last

1015
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:06,640
activity to do something that's really

1016
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:09,119
special so i see that the tank guys i

1017
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,079
see the the solid rocket motor guys

1018
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:14,640
it's program wide and this is a really

1019
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:16,880
special workforce that has this ability

1020
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:19,520
to stay focused to compartmentalize and

1021
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,760
is what mike was describing that when it

1022
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:24,000
comes time to do this work we need to go

1023
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,160
do it and i'm trying from kind of our

1024
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:27,839
perspective is to kind of keep things as

1025
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,280
normal as we can you know there's going

1026
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:31,599
to be lots of folks that want to do all

1027
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:33,760
kinds of big celebrations and different

1028
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:35,520
things and do things different ways i

1029
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:36,960
want the teams to figure out what they

1030
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:38,160
want to do and we're going to keep it

1031
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:39,359
kind of low-key and we're going to just

1032
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:40,880
kind of stay focused and it's just

1033
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:42,160
another shuttle flight we're going to do

1034
00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:43,760
the absolute best we can and just keep

1035
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:46,079
moving forward and and then but in your

1036
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:47,920
heart kind of remember that this is a

1037
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:49,760
special time and cherish a little bit

1038
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,599
what you're getting to go do because it

1039
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,760
is a unique experience that may not be

1040
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:55,680
repeated for a little while but the best

1041
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:57,520
thing we can do is to keep focused keep

1042
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,880
flying that assures that there's a

1043
00:36:02,230 --> 00:36:00,560
future and ready to move forward and the

1044
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:02,240
team really knows that and they are

1045
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:03,920
phenomenal in doing what they're doing

1046
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,599
and it's it's not just here but it's

1047
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:07,920
it's program wide and it the the spirit

1048
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:10,240
is really strong across the team

1049
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,680
yeah this might add a little bit to that

1050
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,200
if i may bill you know the spirit is

1051
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,200
absolutely strong and and what i'd like

1052
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:17,200
to add is let's take ourselves back in

1053
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,440
time and maybe a year or 18 months or so

1054
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:21,200
where when we were talking about the end

1055
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,560
of the program and a lot of people

1056
00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:24,400
didn't believe it and and

1057
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:26,000
and we're in denial because we thought

1058
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:27,680
well heck you know the program can't end

1059
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,760
we're gonna we're gonna fly forever

1060
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:31,680
well now we know that's not the case the

1061
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:34,079
program will end um people have

1062
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:35,839
absolutely come to grips with that when

1063
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:37,280
i talked to the to the folks on the

1064
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,880
floor of the processing facilities and

1065
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:40,240
i'm sure it was the same at math and in

1066
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,680
utah

1067
00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:43,200
they know the end is is coming and

1068
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:44,960
they're making their plans and so we've

1069
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:47,920
gotten past the the denial stage of of

1070
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:49,920
change and we're into that we're into

1071
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,599
the exploration and the acceptance

1072
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:53,119
change and and that's good that's very

1073
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:54,640
healthy for the people to to go through

1074
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:55,839
that process

1075
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,520
um and we're there

1076
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:59,040
again that doesn't that does not change

1077
00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:00,400
the way they work on the vehicle it's

1078
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,560
just it's just their their their mental

1079
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:04,320
capacity they have accepted the fact

1080
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:05,520
that the program is going to end and

1081
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:09,359
they need to make plans for the future

1082
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,400
irene

1083
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:13,200
um john is the trider going to be flying

1084
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:16,640
on 132 and uh bill if um are there any

1085
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:18,880
proposals to use that for a um the

1086
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,000
automated

1087
00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:22,640
uh docking for any uh vehicles going up

1088
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:24,079
to station

1089
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:27,280
yeah no tridar is uh is a discovery only

1090
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:29,680
capability uh we only wired up discovery

1091
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:30,880
to fly it

1092
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:33,599
um and we collected a bunch of data this

1093
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,000
last flight and

1094
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,560
and it could be used in the future for

1095
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:40,079
some kind of an autonomous rendezvous

1096
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:42,000
and docking and and the teams are very

1097
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:44,160
happy to have that data yeah and we're

1098
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,920
flying another device i think on the

1099
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:49,520
i don't know which vehicle it is now but

1100
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,960
it's the station

1101
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:52,320
excuse me it's the constellation

1102
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:54,640
programs device it's a flash lidar that

1103
00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:57,040
does a similar kind of function as as

1104
00:38:01,829 --> 00:37:59,280
the tridar and then we've also flown a

1105
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:01,839
device for spacex dragoneye which is a

1106
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,000
rendezvous prox ops device so what's

1107
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:06,000
neat is we've used the shuttle to fly

1108
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:07,440
essentially three different sensor

1109
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:09,119
suites we also flew one on the hubble

1110
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:10,960
mission it was a goddard

1111
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:12,240
payload i don't remember what it was

1112
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:13,440
called but it was another rendezvous

1113
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:15,680
prox off sensor so we've actually flown

1114
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:17,760
four different rendezvous prox sensors

1115
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,839
on the shuttle we've flown the trider a

1116
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:21,839
couple times so we've got repeat data on

1117
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,760
it but we're able to now kind of compare

1118
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,440
performance of these different devices

1119
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,520
see which one looks best which one gives

1120
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,520
us good data so i think out of this

1121
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:31,040
we'll take a look at all this data and

1122
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:33,040
we'll probably settle on some some

1123
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,520
standards across the program for all

1124
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:37,440
potential spacecraft and we may home in

1125
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:39,119
on some rendezvous proximal sensors out

1126
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:40,720
of this work so again

1127
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,920
the neat thing that i see from the

1128
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:43,599
shuttle is the shuttle legacy has kind

1129
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,680
of really continued forward we're

1130
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:47,440
actually paving the way by understanding

1131
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:49,119
what rendezvous prox sensors will be

1132
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:50,480
used in the future and hopefully out of

1133
00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:51,839
this we can actually pick a standard

1134
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:54,000
that will then become a standard for for

1135
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:55,839
all all folks you know we're working on

1136
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,440
international docking standard i don't

1137
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:59,119
know if you know that but we're trying

1138
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:01,119
to get a docking system that will be

1139
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,280
used will be the standard for all

1140
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:05,040
spacecraft in the future and the idea

1141
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:06,480
then is

1142
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:08,240
if somebody wants to use this docking

1143
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:10,480
system to come up and dock

1144
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:12,240
then you have compatibility between

1145
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:13,920
various spacecrafts no matter who builds

1146
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:15,520
them so we're going to try to publish at

1147
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:17,599
least we're fairly close we're probably

1148
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:19,200
about another two months away from

1149
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,640
actually getting a standard that the

1150
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:23,200
russians agreed to the europeans agreed

1151
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:25,599
to and nasa agrees to as a standard and

1152
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:27,200
then we hopefully put that out then that

1153
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,960
gets adopted by other countries and then

1154
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:31,200
we have compatibility between

1155
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:33,040
various spacecraft and then if we can

1156
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:35,040
then standardize the rendezvous proxop

1157
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:36,800
sensor we've now then even made it

1158
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,599
better so we're starting to begin the

1159
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,599
the infrastructure to put in place to

1160
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:43,599
actually have an international

1161
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:45,520
capability to have spacecraft dock with

1162
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,880
each other and made up in space

1163
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:50,560
um and the last question i had for you

1164
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,320
is um

1165
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:54,960
how are you operating um i guess

1166
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,680
with all your contingency planning if

1167
00:40:00,790 --> 00:39:59,920
you get a continuing resolution budget

1168
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:00,800
which

1169
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:03,280
theoretically i guess would keep shuttle

1170
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:04,319
funded

1171
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:07,280
um or does it end because of some other

1172
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:10,880
um some other

1173
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:12,160
regulation

1174
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:13,520
and um

1175
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:16,240
and and going forward with the or if the

1176
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:17,760
budget that

1177
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:20,000
the white house has proposed has passed

1178
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:22,160
that kind of is a whole different set of

1179
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:24,000
plans and programs if you could just

1180
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,760
maybe kind of outline

1181
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:27,440
all the um

1182
00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:29,599
i guess all the different um

1183
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:31,119
modes that you're kind of preparing to

1184
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,280
operate in thanks and when we get

1185
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:35,280
continuing resolution

1186
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,839
you can either continue at your fy 10

1187
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,440
budget levels or if there's a general

1188
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:41,760
consensus that the fy 11 budget levels

1189
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:43,520
are the appropriate level they may

1190
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,520
approve the continuing resolution to be

1191
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:48,000
at that level so we could we could at

1192
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:49,920
the end of this year even in continuing

1193
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,480
resolution get our shuttle budget cut

1194
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,480
back to the levels that were planned for

1195
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:57,119
2011 in the president's budget

1196
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:58,000
so

1197
00:41:02,230 --> 00:40:59,920
what we're doing like always is we've

1198
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:02,240
got about 15 different options and 15

1199
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,160
different budget levels and different

1200
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,720
manifests and whatever and we're we're

1201
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:08,480
being prepared and we're asking all the

1202
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,880
what-if questions to be prepared to to

1203
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:12,880
be ready to support whatever we're given

1204
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:13,839
so

1205
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:15,040
you know it's not a whole lot different

1206
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:16,560
than

1207
00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:19,599
my my washington political budget world

1208
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:21,680
is not a whole lot different than my

1209
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:23,359
spacecraft technical world right you

1210
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:25,040
never know what hardware is going to not

1211
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:26,319
work at the right time so you're

1212
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:28,240
building contingency plans i don't ever

1213
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:29,839
discuss those contingency plans with you

1214
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:31,359
because then you publish them and then i

1215
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:34,480
get in trouble so so i and you know but

1216
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:36,079
we've got them and we're doing exactly

1217
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,920
the same thing in the budget world we

1218
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,920
have figured out almost any scenario we

1219
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:42,000
can end up with and and i've got john

1220
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:44,000
and suff and the rest of the space ops

1221
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:45,680
team the space communication guys the

1222
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,359
launch vehicle guys all work in all

1223
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:49,599
these various cases and we're prepared

1224
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:51,920
as best we can for whatever we get and

1225
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,520
if they pick one that's not one of our

1226
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:55,520
scenarios we probably have covered the

1227
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:57,040
waterfront with enough different

1228
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,040
scenarios that we can easily morph one

1229
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:00,560
of those scenarios into whatever they

1230
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:03,119
give us so again it's it's what we get

1231
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,640
every day with life you never know what

1232
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:06,000
you're going to get the next day but if

1233
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,359
you're really prepared and you've built

1234
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,599
those contingency plans you're ready to

1235
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,280
go execute and that's what we're doing

1236
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:13,440
in space ops so it's it's operations as

1237
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,440
usual it's not too big a deal to us

1238
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,119
we've been through

1239
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:19,119
lots of exciting times in the past at

1240
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:21,040
budget cycles and and this one's not a

1241
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:24,079
whole lot different to us at this point

1242
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:25,920
all right seeing no further questions

1243
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:27,440
we're going to wrap things up with a

1244
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,079
reminder that the sts-132 astronauts

1245
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,680
will arrive here at kennedy space center

1246
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:34,560
for launch on monday

1247
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,280
may 10th at 7 pm eastern time

1248
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:39,119
and again a reminder that the launch has

1249
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:41,839
been set officially today for may 14th 2

1250
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:44,400
20 pm eastern time and you can keep up

1251
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,640
with all the happenings on sts-132 by

1252
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:47,920
going to our web